I did finish the yellow pants. Remember, I cut off the top of the back and created a yoke to sew on instead...the yoke was larger than the area removed from the upper pant, so it was to fill in the space at the sideseam.


However, I still need a longer back crotch extension to eliminate those wrinkles under the bum! These are the same wrinkles I had on the NAVY PANTS.




In the side view, you can see how they contour the tummy. This isn't always awful...a little contouring keeps the overall silhouette smaller, and since I generally wear my tops untucked, this doesn't always show.

The SIZE of the tummy also makes a difference as to how high the front waist hits. The larger the tummy, the longer that front seam needs to be to reach the waist. If you have a tummy that changes in size, this front waist drop can be a hard choice to make! Apparently, this was a larger tummy day!
I put pockets in these as is my usual M.O. I like jeans-style pockets that lay flat on the tummy (instead of side seam pockets).
Yes, I can squat down in these.
The back waist DOES pull down a little...but I had already determined that the back seam needs to be longer at each end) crotch point and back waist).

These pants look ok from behind, but I wish they had more ease right on the bum cheeks. My bum isn't huge and adding some ease there better balances the larger waist/high hip area.




These pants look ok from behind, but I wish they had more ease right on the bum cheeks. My bum isn't huge and adding some ease there better balances the larger waist/high hip area.
I used a zipper from my grandmother's stash. Well, that wasn't a great idea...back then, they didn't have a 'lock' feature on the tab, so when I bend over the pants sometimes unzip. That is unacceptable! :)
Choosing the right settings for drafting pants is so hit-and-miss!
My very best-fitting PMB pants are some that I made using 1" of hip ease, but then had to sew out the excess fullness on the sides.
So, I decided that I should use zero ease.
WEll, that is true, I DO need to use ZERO hip ease....
BUT, one thing I forgot to consider is that when you add hip ease, in addition to more ease at sideseam, the pattern's crotch point is also extended.
When I sewed out the excess fabric (jodphurs) on my previous 'best' pants, I did NOT sew out the longer crotch point, too.
So, when I use ZERO HIP EASE, I also need to use a longer crotch point setting than I used when I added some hip ease!
Duh...
Each pant is a learning experience!
7 comments:
Boy do these look good!
A pretty spring colour too!
Dale
Trish, these look quite good. I hope you're ok with receiving comments that MIGHT help. Here goes:
FLAT SEAT ADJUSTMENT: I know you know how to do this manually, but I was inspired to see someone else's photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7370831@N07/424123160/in/set-72157600004811376/
Translating to PMB would, I think, be (1) scooping the crotch; 2) raising the waist about mid-way between CB and SS. I, too, have a flat seat (though very large, haha) and this is what I did and it worked beautifully. Never figured out how to get the wait higher where I needed it with PMB, so it's just manual.
KNOCK KNEE ADJUSTMENT: take a small pinch at the outside of knee to see if this doesn't make a nice difference in how pants hang. I have to do this and via PMB I lower the SS by same amount.
Cheers, you do such great fitting, I can't believe I'm giving you hints! I follow your blog and PMBHELP on Yahoo.
Patti in Houston
Patti, I appreciate the tips. Do you think I need to do a flat seat adjustment and knock-knee adjustment? Neither of these had occurred to me...I kinda feel like I need the opposite!
Thanks, Dale!
I think the fit is pretty darn good. I admire the effort and determination you have, not only fitting pants on yourself, but then trying to incorporate those changes in PMB. I went the "draft a basic pant pattern from measurements and have a professional fit it on me" route. I use the resulting sloper to modify commercial patterns and I still have fitting issues depending on the weight and type of fabric I use. Perfectly fitting pants, the elusive goal.
Trish, you might try the flat seat first and then the pinch for knock needs. Alternatively, on this pair, pinch a little wedge at the knee and see if it improves anything. If not, then I'm probably wrong in observation.
I studied the Kenneth King ebook on Pants. He starts from scratch. But his principle for fitting is subtraction/addition. Meaning, pinch (or add fabric) to where ever it's needed. Then add/subtract at the nearest seams. Once I started doing this, it FELT right and I could translate that into PMB (usually).
Your pants look fine from what I see. I find pants harder to fit than tops and dresses. Good for you to discover things that help you achieve your goal.
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